congressman cliff stearns chairs the energy and commerce subcommittee that's investigating. >> i have the right to say there's a debacle here, there's malfeasance, somebody's culpable, come to me and explain why, 32 americans have died, 450 are in the hospital. tell me what happened. >> reporter: actually, stearns expects cadden to remain silent and take the 5 *9. >> there was clear evidence that the quality control was terrible at new england compounding center and he was doing nothing about it. so for some reason he was camouflaging and trying to indicate to the f.d.a. that there's no problem. >> reporter: is barry cadden a liar? >> i think obviously he was shading the truth. >> reporter: stearns plans to examine an incident in september of 2004 when cadden was asked by an f.d.a. investigator if any cc had a non-f.d.a. approved product. cadden said no, according to the investigator, who then reported finding 189 vials of it on site. >> so i think the f.d.a. has a lot to explain here because at this point all of us are just aghast at these number of people that have died as well as a